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Postby DEL-SIR » Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:59 pm

All GM stores have had a real concern with
customers on pistion slap issues. Apparantly the blodd sucking attorneys are looking for clients. Hope GM does not have to follow the paths of some of the other
manufacturers. This would cost them billions
and billions
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Postby jdaniel » Wed Dec 24, 2003 11:28 am

Blood-sucking attorneys? If GM stepped up and either built them right or fixed them right the attorneys would go hungry. Sadly, it often takes the kind of threat that the greed-driven legal system spawns to get the manufacturers' attention.

Jack
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Postby Michael White » Wed Dec 24, 2003 8:58 pm

Working in a GMC dealership myself I have mixed feelings about the piston slap concern. Granted, I truly believe ther slap will not casue a problem with longevity with the motor. However, the only concern I do see is when the customer trades in the vehicle. customers buying a used car will take a different attitude about the noise. GM should special policy all the engines and automatically give them a 100K warranty. this should resolve my only concern.
It does bother me that it takes GM sooooo
long to fix a concern like this. We have been having piston slaps since the late 90's, and they really did not fix it until 2003 on most of their product. the fix was not significant. they did it by coating the pistons. GM did hte same thin with the 4.1l, 4.9l engines. Also some concerns with the 4.6L took years to reasolve. One thing is for cure, if Toyota or Honda had this problem, most likely it would have been resolved in a year. But then again, Honda is having some trans problems for several years.
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Postby jdaniel » Tue Dec 30, 2003 9:19 am

Michael, I think you are right about the longevity issue- I've driven various cars, trucks and motorcycles many years and tens of thousands of miles while listening to pistons slap and wrist pins rattle; the only longevity issue for most was premature speaker failure from trying to drown out the noise.

I think the problem of customer perception that you alluded to is the real issue. The reason I was driving all of those s!@#boxes was that I picked them up cheap since we couldn't retail them.

It is amazing how much money the manufacturers will spend to get a customer in the door, only to blow them out by the treatment they receive (while leaving us in the service drive saying "no" to our customer).

Jack
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