MOTORCRAFT DISTRIBUTORS VS. DEALERS

MOTORCRAFT DISTRIBUTORS VS. DEALERS

Postby fordpts » Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:07 am

I can't think of anything closer to a raquet than this. I HAVE to buy reman parts and most selling brake pads from my competition (motorcraft distributor). Hmmmmm.
My competition (motorcraft distributor) sells motorcraft parts to my customers for the same cost or less than FMC cost. Hmmmm.

I asked my wholesale rep this week "Why do you do this?" He stated and I quote "We have to be fair to everyone." Hmmmm.

Anybody else have a thought here?

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MOTORCRAFT DISTRIBUTORS VS. DEALERS

Postby Gran Sasso » Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:09 pm

Its the same deal with GM and AC Delco. Since a delco distributor (also a motocraft distro) opened in town, our non collision wholesale has dropped by probably 2/3. They sell to my old customers at my cost, and have more drivers. I don't quite understand why delco/motocraft would want to hurt their dealers like this.
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Postby Parts007 » Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:05 pm

This one really urks me... Sorry to go off on an AcDelco tangent in this Ford Post, but I think it is the same idea.
At one meeting we questioned why GM sells to an ACDelco Distributor cheaper than to a dealer. The GM exec who answered the question stated the AcDelco Distributor has a large investment in each part, buying them in bulk. Thinking to myself, I started to agree with this logic until a Dealer Principal sitting in the audience asked this question, "What about my investment in GM, my new car showroom, my (car)inventory, my building, my service department, training, etc..?" It is true that each dealer has a considerable investment in their Manufacturer, and shouldn't be able to be out-priced by an WD warehouse.

One more thing I love is when your wholesale customer calls you up asking for the part number for an AcDelco part, because the WD doesn't have the investment of a good parts catalog.
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Postby jlewis » Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:55 am

While I understand both concerns, you must first fully understand a couple of things. With regard to the ACDelco side of things: ACDelco distributors have been able to purchase GM parts at a price less than a GM Dealer for the past 75-80+ years. This is nothing new. Secondly, the vast majority of non-collision wholesale accounts (i.e. Independent garages) DON'T purchase genuine ACDelco parts for most jobs in their shops to begin with.

Most of these independent garages use non original equipment, off brand parts. The reason is simple. They generate far bigger profit margins with off brand parts than they can with ACDelco or Motorcraft parts. That being said, most GM and Ford Dealers had lost the majority of that market decades ago to the off brand parts market. GM and Ford Dealers still sell those independent garages non O.E. parts, but not a large volume of ACDelco or Motorcraft maintanence parts. This is true in most large markets. In fact, in reality, Dealers haven't sold many of the O.E. parts to their wholesale customers for a very long time, and it isn't because of ACDelco or Motorcraft distributors stealing their customers. It's because those customers have already made the decision to use cheaper non O.E. parts to begin with.

Fast forward to approx. 5-7 years ago. ACDelco began pushing their WD's into stocking and selling the "All makes - All Models" concept. ACDelco determined that there was some six billion dollars worth of off brand parts being purchased by independent garages across the nation and that very little of that six billion dollars included ACDelco parts. In there infinate lack of wisdom, ACDelco began punishing their WD's with less and less discount if they (The WD) didn't begin stocking more ACDelco parts for all makes of cars, other than GM. They also began forcing their WD's to aggressively begin calling on and attempting to sell more independent garage type accounts. They (GM) also began forcing their WD's to not only stock these non-GM parts, but to actually turn their inventory of these parts a minimum of twice per year. Did the WD's really care to do this? Absolutely not!! Nonetheless, without giving in to the pressure from GM, the WD's were put into a position by which they were risking their own ACDelco franchises by not falling into lockstep. Without giving in, the WD was simply put into a noncompetitive position by having more and more discount taken away from them. In most cases, WD's were simply terminated. In 1992 there were some 3500+ WD's in this country. Today, less than 95. WOW!

In reality, while many WD's have become far more aggressive in their pursuit of independent garage accounts, the total volumn of dollars being sold to those accounts has been minimal, at best. Let's put it this way: If ACDelco and their current WD's were forced to rely on independent garages to stay in business, the entire ACDelco divsion would become exstinct.

As far as WD's being able to purchase parts for less than a GM Dealer? Think of it this way: If they couldn't, most GM dealers wouldn't be able to maintain their CSI. In fact, CSI would drop drastically without ACDelco WD's.

Most WD's are still willing to not only make mulitple deliveries to the GM Dealer every day in an effort to service the Deales customers, but do so at prices that are less than published Dealer price. That not only allows GM dealers to keep their service customers satisfied, but has also allowed the GM Dealer to put additional gross profit in his own pocket at the same time. Most Dealers (Ford or GM)don't seem to complain when this occurs.

Back in the days prior to March of 1996 (When GM really put the screws to it's GM Dealers by cutting the published Dealer price to the most popular 7500 ACDelco part numbers by some 25-30%), most ACDelco WD's were willing to sell GM dealers their parts at published Dealer price less as much as a 25-30% discount. When a car was being repaired under warranty, the GM dealer was paid cost + 40% by GM, then was able to put an additional 25-30% in their pocket by purchasing that ACDelco part from their local ACDelco WD. Example: With a published dealer price (Prior to March of 1996) of $100.00, the GM Dealer was able to purchase that part from an ACDelco WD at a price as low as $70.00. They would then sell it under warranty, be reimbursed by GM for $100.00 + 40% or $40.00, then add the additional $30.00 in discount from their local WD. No one was complaining when the Dealer was able to generate 70% gross profit BECAUSE of the local WD, rather than the 40% that they would have WITHOUT the WD.

I fully understand the concern of the New Car Dealer. The perception is that they could be making more money by purchasing parts cheaper than the local WD. When put into practice, this can occur with customer pay pricing. In reality, the mathmatical matrix's used in today's dealer market will still mark up the CP price based on the published cost. Example: If the current published dealer cost is now $50.00, the CP price is usually approx. $100.00. If the dealer were able to pay the same as the WD, that part would cost him approx. $37.50. The CP selling price would be approx. $75.00, thus generating 25% less gross profit than before. In some cases where matrix's are not used, the dealer would be able to mark up the new lower cost to a selling price the same as before and generate more gross profit under CP.

Under warranty conditions, the dealer will simply gross less profit dollars when published cost prices are lowered. Simply stated, cost + 40% on a lower priced part is simply less profit.

So, be very careful when asking WHY an ACDelco WD is allowed to purchase parts for less than what a Dealer can. It's BECAUSE they CAN that helps keep the GM Dealer in business regardless of those WD's that have been forced by the manufacturer to take some business away from their Dealer accounts. When looking at the big picture, be very carefull what you ask for.

If GM and/or Ford finally gets to the point where they begin selling their Dealers at the SAME cost as they sell WD's, it will only cut further into the bottom line profit margins of the Dealer. The same thing General Motors did in March of 1996. Again, be careful what you ask for, it just might come true.

While not being familiar with Motorcraft, I'm certain that Motorcraft WD's have come under that same pressure from Ford Motor Company. I'm sure they too have been forced to go after the independent aftermarket garages in an effort to bolster the sales of motorcraft products at the expense of angering their loyal Ford Dealer customers. Come on guys, how much sence does it make to pick up that $600 per month independent garage and risk loosing the $15,000 per month dealer account? Clearly a retorical question.
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Postby LIFESENTENCE » Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:52 pm

JLewis, thank you. My previous job was at a Delco/Motorcraft WD. I have been trying to explain this to dealers for years. And you sounded like you listened to one of my speeches and wrote it down.;-) Everything he said about the WD's is absolutely correct.

As far as the Motorcraft side, I can tell you that we were told to go after the independent business, unless a dealer complained. In other words, if the independent could keep his mouth shut and not let the Ford dealer know he was buying Motorcraft direct he was ok. Funny, how many couldn't. Then, on the other side some of the independents complained to the WD when they got a Motorcraft part from a dealer at or less than what the WD quoted them! At one point Ford was offering most Motorcraft batteries for $50.00. An independent called me figuring he could get the battery for $35-40. He wouldn't believe me when I told him Ford's cost was $53.00.

Finally, 95% or more of what independents buy from Delco/Motorcraft WD's are parts they would not have bought from a dealer. GM and Ford saw how much parts business they were losing to the aftermarket, and instead of lowering the cost of their parts to the dealers so the dealers could get back the business they went after the business directly. Some 'business partner', eh?

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Postby fordpts » Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:32 pm

I think there are some missing the point here.
Fact: Dealers cannot purchase MOST Motorcraft parts except from a Motorcraft distribitor.

Fact: Motorcraft distributors purchase ALL Motorcraft parts at a lower cost than on the dealer price tape.

Fact: Motorcraft distributors are selling parts to dealer accounts at or lower than cost to a dealer.

Opinion: This is a good example of FMC controlling profit by minimizing the investment the dealers have made on owning a Ford/Lincoln/Mercury dealership. The WD's do not have near the investment nor are they loyal to the manufacturer. This is not competition, it is control and disloyalty to the dealers. Like I said "a raquet".

So what if the WD's have pressure, an even ground makes for competition, competition makes for better customer service, better customer service makes for better reputation, better reputation makes for a better working relationship with, yes you guessed it, the manufacturer.
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Postby LIFESENTENCE » Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:54 pm

fordpts, I respectfully disagree with some of your 'facts' and conclusions.

It is true that WD's buy at a lower price than dealers. How do you think they could make money selling to dealers at dealer cost, or less, if they didn't? And, unless your dealership is stocking several million dollars in parts, they don't have a bigger investment. I know if you throw in new cars the equation changes, but let's compare apples to apples. How can they not be loyal to the manufacturer? The one I worked for only carried Motorcraft and Delco. And, if Ford's supply chain is anything like GM's, how many times would you be waiting day(s) for parts you get from WD's?

Now, I'm not about to comment for all WD's, but the one I worked for did not sell to independents cheaper than what they sold to dealers. Some items were sold at the same price, but most were sold at a higher price.

And I still contend that 95% or more of what independents buy from the WD isn't parts they would have bought from a dealership anyway. They would have bought the parts from an aftermarket source instead. Motorcraft is not going after the dealer parts business, they've already got you. They want NAPA's, Federated's, and whoever your local aftermarket store is, business too. The only other way they can get that business is to drastically reduce the price to the dealers. And we all know the folly of reducing prices to sell more, and so does FMC. (Well, you would think so. But after last year's 'employee price' war, I wonder.) Unless you want to start selling filters for $.25 profit, you're not going to compete. For that matter, how many dealers have pushed to sell filters, for example, to independent garages?

And you say so what if WD's have pressure. True, they don't have to do what Motorcraft or Delco tell them to do. And then again Motorcraft and Delco don't have to supply them, either!

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Postby fordpts » Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:11 am

LIFESENTENCE, I can understsnd your position but, this is not yesterdays way of business.

WD's are actively competing against dealers. This is a slap in the face to dealers which HAVE pushed filters, brakes, rotors, spark plugs, oxygen sensors and ALL of the REMAN products ect. which are sold as a MOTORCRAFT brand.

Of course I don't have an issue with WD's buying parts at less than dealer cost... the point is since they do, the dealers such as myself don't have a chance to compete. I have over fifty documents from loyal customers whom I have sold parts to for years with WD's selling at or under dealer cost.

Here is the bottom line, competition makes you better or it makes you get out of the game.

Don't you think it is reasonable to say healthy competition starts with an even playing ground; then you make advantages for yourself such as customer service, experience, knowledge ect. I just think pring from WD's should be regulated to some degree if they are competing with dealers in the wholesale game.
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Postby LIFESENTENCE » Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:13 pm

Fordpts, I can see your frustration if you've been able to build wholesale business on parts that most independents buy aftermarket and now your WD is undercutting you. I also commend you, because that isn't the norm, at least in this area.

I would suggest you talk to someone from Motorcraft. I can tell you that while I was still with the WD that Motorcraft told us if any dealer complained that we were to back off from their area. Maybe they can apply some pressure for you.

Anytime you have to compete with the same company that supplies you you're at a disadvantage.
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