EMISSION AND WARNING LABELS

EMISSION AND WARNING LABELS

Postby X476 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:33 pm

My Body Shop manager and I are having a difference of opinion. I say that we have to replace all the labels that are not salvageable after an accident. He says that it is not needed unless the insurance company or customer request them. By law I thought we had to do the emission label ?
Anybody know where I can find out for sure?
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Re: EMISSION AND WARNING LABELS

Postby Whiner » Tue Feb 02, 2016 5:42 pm

I don't know what the law states but one could assume that since the manufacturer installs the labels they must be required. If they weren't required do you think GM or Ford, etc., would install VIN specific labels?

Things to consider?

1 - Why not install them? You make money selling these labels. Insurance companies always pay for them around here.

2 - Why risk the fine? If they are required you can imagine the penalty. One could assume it is along the same lines as a converter removal. After all you are altering the emission "package".

3 - see #1 - sell and make the money. Simple
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Re: EMISSION AND WARNING LABELS

Postby X476 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:17 pm

Whiner wrote:I don't know what the law states but one could assume that since the manufacturer installs the labels they must be required. If they weren't required do you think GM or Ford, etc., would install VIN specific labels?

Things to consider?

1 - Why not install them? You make money selling these labels. Insurance companies always pay for them around here.

2 - Why risk the fine? If they are required you can imagine the penalty. One could assume it is along the same lines as a converter removal. After all you are altering the emission "package".

3 - see #1 - sell and make the money. Simple



Yeah I am all for it but he (body shop manager) does not figure them and when I put them on the RO he gets bent that it doesn't match the estimate. I told him that A figure them on the estimate of B. file a supplement. The last time I did it he wanted me to discount other parts the price of the labels :twisted: So I just billed the body shop for the labels. Needless to say the guy pisses me off.
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Re: EMISSION AND WARNING LABELS

Postby JMShocker2010 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:48 pm

X476 wrote:
Whiner wrote:I don't know what the law states but one could assume that since the manufacturer installs the labels they must be required. If they weren't required do you think GM or Ford, etc., would install VIN specific labels?

Things to consider?

1 - Why not install them? You make money selling these labels. Insurance companies always pay for them around here.

2 - Why risk the fine? If they are required you can imagine the penalty. One could assume it is along the same lines as a converter removal. After all you are altering the emission "package".

3 - see #1 - sell and make the money. Simple



Yeah I am all for it but he (body shop manager) does not figure them and when I put them on the RO he gets bent that it doesn't match the estimate. I told him that A figure them on the estimate of B. file a supplement. The last time I did it he wanted me to discount other parts the price of the labels :twisted: So I just billed the body shop for the labels. Needless to say the guy pisses me off.


Sounds like he just doesn't want to do his job.
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Re: EMISSION AND WARNING LABELS

Postby FixedManager » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:09 am

It is a violation of the Clean Air Act and must be replaced. In California there are additional regulations that carry a $5,000.00 fine for this violation.
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